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Should we kick out vendors? Please vote!

Question: Are we seeing too many vendors on the pages, making challenges and pretending to be friends and stuff?

Write ***Y in comments below to vote Yes to the above question

Write ***N in comments below to vote No to the above question

We ARE planning to see lots of vendors products in a new components section that we are working on. But I am sure that will just be nice for all of us; Cool products nice to browse, and a nice place to showcase what you sell (unlike now where it is a not so nice list)

However, this vote is to get a feeling for your opinion, folks; Do we feel overtaken, are vendors closing in, poluting the feeling of "friends on LMR"? Because if so, we will kill them! (Or at least make systems where vendors can only have members post challenges for them, so we only have cool dudes to post stuff)

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Man, this is an interesting vote! Both sides of the question have had some very good arguments.

For me, as a "hobbyist" - seeing posts about the parts is interesting (and sometimes even useful) but at the same time also bothersome. I come here mostly to look at how others are building their cool bots. I don't want to wade through a bunch of crap posts about various colors of jumper wires just to find one interesting tidbit about Chris the Carpenters next robot. So it would be easy for me to want to flip my vote.


as I am hoping to eventually become a "vendor" as well (more on that when the time is right) - it is disturbing to think I could have a "vendor" tag attached to my signature and people would totally not even look at my posts thinking I am planning to spam them (certainly would NOT be what is on my mind!). Even as a vendor, I would hope that sometimes I could contribute something useful to the LMR community.

Also, as far as charging vendors to post here - sounds like a good idea at first. It could certainly help Rudolph get the resources he needs to make LMR even more user friendly and cool website. However, if I were to someday become a vendor/hobbyist, where does it leave me? I probably wouldn't ever have the resources Pololu or Solarbotics have, and any fee charged could potentially put me off. I like the idea of an even better LMR, but on the other hand, fees could potentially screen out some very *cool* people (for example like Oddbot/DAGU) that simply can't afford a huge fee.

I really have to agree with Revenant.Revival, the vendors are here to make enough $ to make even more cool stuff for us.

Anyway, I said my 2c.  Dunno if it contributed anything - but I feel better. :-)


I think there could be a separate area for vendors... some vendors put nice things on this site.
Thomas is right - Solarbotics added a 1 cell AAA holder today...  Really?

Wherever people gather, someone will jump in hawking their wares.  Some of it will be relevant and interesting (Dagu is a great example), and some will be 1 cell AAA holders.  If you charge, you're going to exclude all the smaller vendors from sharing the cool things they have,  you'll ONLY get the Solarbotics & Pololu type vendors.  I think the current strategy of seperate areas is probably the best:  Manage the flow.  

I work on Gadget Gangster because I want to share my excitement about electronics with others - it's far from being profitable.  XMOS isn't profitable, and I'm sure OddBot doesn't roll in a Mr. Basic-style Bentley.  My goal isn't to spam anyone - just to get new people excited about the hobby and hopefully break even financially.  

Just my 2c - but so far I've been really impressed with how lmr handles vendors and I think most of them do add to the community.  As a hobbyist, I like having Dagu, xmos, fingertech and others on this site and I'd miss their contributions. 
thats what you put if you dont want the venders. right?

I say ***N, but I'm with jklug80 and vince086: vendors must have a much, much lower profile.

I'm curious as to why you vote Y, Frits. Initally, I was tentative about the vendors moving in at all. What Mike says is true: I'm not sure that the LMR site is really getting the returns it might've got.

I do think that the vendor-provided challenges are a great idea. The problem is the incentives aren't really good enough.

I read the vote.

I had my opinion, but I respect others, I am out, and we plan deveopment of the site in respect of this :)

Why dont we put VENDOR in big bold letters under their username in their posts. Or make their name UserName_VENDOR

No, it wont be a problem as long as they behave proffesionally.

The components part of the site will be their domain, and that's OK.

If they continiue to post parts and challenges, that's fine. It's even cool if they wanna post a few "we plan to make something like.... what do you awesome guys at LMR think of it?", because that makes me feel like the value our input.

But. If they try to post subliminal advertizing I'll feel that as a go-ahead to change all their component pages in a non-flattering way.

Like a lot of people here I see there are both pros and cons, and certainly for those suppliers who have contributed more than  others there is room.  I go along with Chris the Carpenter with suggesting maybe a pay to display commercial area, with maybe discounts / limited time free on select components to those companies contributing to our community.


Keeping the products out of the unread posts would be great as well.

A robot builder is a builder and a vendor is a vendor. Just use the right forum rooms. Why so complicatted. When I click on robots, I expect to see robots and relatted that people built, not pushing to sell. You guys do have alot of different rooms I don't even know of or use yet. I am new. I expect to see robots that PEOPLE built, not engineering teams from some company. Still a 1/2 yes