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Nonbots in the robots section - "tisk tisk" or "boo woo"?

Should we ban all nonbots from the robots section? You know: robots that are not. That do not even exist? Ideas for an upcoming robot that only exist in the maker's mind. Maybe on a scrap of paper. Maybe the materials are "in the mail"?

I really don't like it when people post such projects. I don't care if the robot turns out to be really awesome real soon or if the idea never comes to fruition. I just feel that the robots sections should be reserved for actual projects that actually have something to show.

What are we, the Nobel Committee?

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Just have people post their project as a blog until they consider it "almost done".

Such as:
Concept/Idea; Blog

In progress-No physical components; Blog

In progress-Parts purchased, no physical robot; Blog

In progress- robot constructed, not physically done; Robot post

 Not that hard people...

It isn't hard but it needs to be posted someone when people go to make a robot page. That's the key.

Step 1. Make a rule

Step 2. Display the rule proudly

Step 3. Enforce said rule with lashes with a wet noodle

The problem is for the last 3 months we skipped step 1 and 2 and have just now nailed down step 1.

1st, i'd say that everybody's pretty relax for now :)

2nd, i think that rik sure doesn't want people to not help each other, he's just pointing at the robot pages that have no picture and just say "'i'm going to build a robot that will do this and that..." Those pages should indeed be in a blog so they don't show up on the front page... just to keep the "spirit"of the site... because it's sure looks better if there are only actual robots on the front page! And in a blog, people are able to ask for help and advices.

The draft is a really good idea, just to prepare your page to be ready to go public, but a draft that everybody can read, that does already exist : it's a blog!

The whole relax comment was targetted to those who yell at someone who just joined and made a robot page. The first few comments are alays MAKE A BLOG NOT A ROBOT PAGE WANNHHHH!!!! DO IT NOW STUPID!

 This makes new users feel like crap while rules are being enforced that either don't exist or aren't posted anywhere where a new user would see it.

... too

We should relax a little, that is what the site is for: hobby robot builders. Probably only 10 percent (correct me please if I am wrong) of the people with accounts on the site have actually built something. But some can help others, some can come up with ideas, some might have experience with this kind of stuff.

There have been many discussions on what a robot is, if a Lego or Meccano build can be considered a robot, if a kit based robot is a robot, if an Arduino blinking some leds is not a bot, and on and on.  Well as far as I'm concerned a robot is anything that can do something programmed/designed to do, so anything can be a robot. 

I say let people try, post their plans, ideas, sketches, half builds, errors. There might be something worth learning from that, and anyway if a robot page is made and it turns out to be just a failure, or never updated, the owner or the admin can delete it anyway.

 

How about we make a robot that decides what is or isn't a robot. 

What could ease the pain a little would be to give the user the ability to write a draft of a robot page. You see, what I often miss is the possibility to create a robot page for an idea; maybe just a few lines of text which define a goal. Certainly this is not a robot page worth, no sir, but it is worth something - sometimes. It could have it's own category [robot-drafts/ideas] not shown on the front page. Once the user had filled a certain robot-draft up enough to feel confident it was to become a robot-project he or she could flag it/post it as a robot project, maybe just with a single mouse click.

just an idea. You see, I dont like blogs :) 

Perhaps a small qualification or 2 can be used. 

  1. It needs to have some sort of structure built, a part or 2 or more put together. No unattached motors on batteries.
  2. It must have a video of it moving under power.
I think this would let BEAM bots be posted in their simplicity, and allow any others to simply wire power to whatever actuators the bot has to post a "work in progress".  Does require some sort of video, but that should not be too difficult.

Anything less should probably be a blog post.

You can define a "robot: work in progress" as any post that shows a part that has been built or altered. That wont end the discussion of where to post however. 

Right now a robot is either "work in progress" or "done', but my robots are never really done. There is always something to tweak, change or reprogram.

So how about listing more stages for the robot pages. Something like;

 

  1. Idea / concept
  2. design / planning
  3. gathering parts (pile of parts)
  4. building / programming
  5. finishing / final steps
  6. Finished
or something.
 
If you can see on the homepage what stage a robot-project is in, you wont be annoyed that when you open it, it turns out to be "only" an idea.