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My Drumming Machine


Still trying to get the L293D to work...

 

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This looks amazin

 

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Ok, so I connected and it worked fine, proving that my L293D board is not the problem its my connections,

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 Blue and white are obviously outputs

 

And can anyone tell me the outputs connected on the Picaxe 28x1 Board where I can run the code from Fritsl's YDM tutorial page with the GM10 as the head?

Your motor controller needs a capacitor. I used two IIRC. About 10uF should do it, but I'd rather go in the hundreds range to be safe.

 

Otherwise, it is rather straightforward. Have a look at the datasheet, as I forget how the chip is wired now. Learning about H bridges is essential. I built an h bridge that would take ... up to around 600 volts (I've tested to 200) and switch over 3 amps at 200kHz.

 

Thats some heavy-duty stuff man. Definitely worth learning about.

Are you positive a capaciter is needed? The other three people who have built a drum machine, and used an L293D/other motor controller, have not used a capaciter, actually the only miscellaneous electronic was a resistor, and even so was proably very little ohms

 

The mitor controller is going to want a zero-impedance voltage source at its inputs. I am running off of a protoboard, and power traces are fairly long so when the motor would try and switch on the motors, I am assuming the voltage at the motor chip would dip below a cutoff and then shut the chip down until the voltage rose again.

 

 

I was experiencing jerky motor problems. I was also running off of batteries. I can see how using a cap may be a problem for some builders, but I , in all honesty, probably own over 400 caps of different sizes/voltages. I have 'em to spare, and they are only like 10 cents each.

In response to your question, a capacitor is not always nessecary. It was for me. Pardon my spelling.

I didn't use a capacitor on the SN754410 on Little Drum Machine, but I did use them on Little PIC:

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(The SN754410 is the bottom chip). Basically, it never hurts to add capacitors to motor circuits, and it almost always helps. You should get in the habit of just always using them. Buy a bunch of 0.1 uF capacitors and sprinkle them around like candy :)

For months now I haven't been able to get my BullyBot to move -- I had soldered one 0.1 uF capacitor across each of the two motors in the Tamiya dual gearbox, so I thought that couldn't be the problem, but still when I sent the command to the Pololu motor controller to drive the motors forward, they'd pulse for a second and then the system would reset. Finally I added two more capacitors to each motor like Pololu suggests (even though in this thread I had mentioned how I didn't understand what the point was), and once I had the three capacitors on each motor, the problem cleared right up. I can't believe I struggled for months when all I needed was a few more capacitors :)

Dan

with my stick controller I found it helpful to wire up the chip on my breadboard first.  One thing you should check is to make sure you connect all the grounds together, and make sure the ground from the L293 is connected to the one from your MCU.  I still dont know why that is needed, somebody tried to explain it to me but I didnt really understand.  However it makes all the difference.  Also I dunno how essential this is, but I used a 47k pullup resistor on the enable pins, basically I connected them together thus:

enable1/2 -> enable3/4 -> 47k -> 5vcc

that was the setup that worked for me pretty much...

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No I get what connections go to where, but according to the L293D datasheet, I must connect all (4) grounds, to four G pins on the MCU, and the same for the Voltage, as well as output (each of them have four)? Do I only need one for each?

You only need to connect one of the grounds, unless you're powering motors that draw close to the limits of the chip's current capabilities. In that case, it makes sense to connect all 4 grounds, because the grounds also act as the heat sink connections to draw heat away from the chip.

The two voltages, Vcc1 and Vcc2, are different -- Vcc1 is the one that powers the L293D's logic circuits, and Vcc2 is the voltage that is fed to the motors. Vcc1 should be connected to the 5v from your microcontroller, and Vcc2 should be connected to the battery positive. If you're using a separate battery for the motors, then Vcc2 should be connected to that battery.

As for the 4 outputs, obviously you shouldn't connect all four of those together :) 1Y and 2Y should be connected to the two motor leads of one motor, and 3Y and 4Y go to the second motor.

Dan

Tis exactly what I was looking for, thanks mate!