Range Finders

Bryan47's picture

Ok so I just posted a question about wheels and now I'm on to

my next component in my first robot..range finders.

I see the SRF05 is popular which I can purchase here..http://www.hobbyengineering.com/H2262.html

 

They also seem to have a bunch of others like SRF04 and SRF08, anyone care to break

down the difference for me?

 

Next I see this sensor which also looks nice using 3 pins..the ping sensor..http://www.hobbyengineering.com/H2951.html

on a PICAXE 28x1 which will be my best bet?

also I figure I'll get this handy little gadget.....http://www.hobbyengineering.com/H2952.html.

 

 

Thanks a lot, to all of you. I'm a senior in high school

headed off to college for robotic engineering so I think this

site is a nice home for me.

 

PS I'm in the states :)

fritsl's picture

To put it short; The

To put it short; The different range-finders have different specs in speed, versatility, range, reliability, price etc..

I recomend the SRF05 for Picaxe, as it is so well documented, and it is really good!

For the ping, there are guys in here who is using it:

http://letsmakerobots.com/search/node/ping

i know Chris the Carpenter might have some experience regarding Picaxe and Ping

/ Frits

Chris the Carpenter's picture

DO NOT buy the 3 pin!

 Hey Bryan,

I don't know much about the different FR0's but I can say the Ping 3-pin will not work with a picaxe. The 3 pin is for a Stamp board and one pin is used for both input signal and output as well. The picaxe uses 2 different pins for I and O -thus 4 wires. Other than that the FR05 seems to be the standard everywhere. 

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fritsl's picture

ERHM - The Ping SHOULD work

ERHM - The Ping SHOULD work with the Picaxe, I am PRETTY sure!

Pretty - I did post you some on this somewhere, Chris, no?

BUT.. I agree - do not do the 3-pin - alone for the fact that it is not as good a solution; Harder to code, not as fast result, only a solution if you have less ins / outs and want to spare one. 

/ Frits

Chris the Carpenter's picture

The Ping thing...

 Hey folks,

In terms of the 3 pin and 4 pin... the problem I ran into is that the 3-pin uses a single pin for input and output. The stamp controller, it seems, has pin that allows for rapid toggle between I and O. The "ping" unit is "stamp" brand after all. When I say it didn't work with a picaxe, is not to say it won't but from what I am seeing you would have to use 2 channels with diodes so the output pulse would not get sent directly to the input pin of the picaxe. I guess the 08m would do it on one channel if it could toggle from I/O fast enough. I dunno... for me, I would rather just get the propper accessory and spend time coding instead of having to MacGyver for a night to get it to work. In conclusion, I am wicked new at all this, just lettin' ya'll know what I think I know.

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fritsl's picture

Nononoo!! There are plenty

Nononoo!!

There are plenty of pins on thePicaxes that can be used for both out and in. With the smaller Picaxes this is very common to use because you have so few pins - which is also why the SRF05 when shipped from picaxe comes with instructions on how to use it with only 3 pins.. I think I wrote this to you, no?

Yes, I did :D http://letsmakerobots.com/node/66

Also look at this, written when I was about to make Yellow Drum Machine: http://letsmakerobots.com/node/113

/ Frits

TheCowGod's picture

No problem on Arduino either

I've successfully used a PING on an Arduino too. Here was my code for that:

 

#define SONAR_PIN        9

unsigned long ping()
{
   pinMode(SONAR_PIN, OUTPUT);    // Switch signalpin to output
   digitalWrite(SONAR_PIN, LOW);  // Send 0-1-0 pulse to trigger PING
   delayMicroseconds(2);          // Wait for 2 microseconds
   digitalWrite(SONAR_PIN, HIGH); // Send high pulse
   delayMicroseconds(5);          // Wait for 5 microseconds
   digitalWrite(SONAR_PIN, LOW);  // Go back to low
   pinMode(SONAR_PIN, INPUT);     // Switch signalpin to input
   digitalWrite(SONAR_PIN, HIGH); // Turn on pullup resistor
   unsigned long echo = pulseIn(SONAR_PIN, HIGH); //Listen for echo
   unsigned long sonar_value = (echo / 58.138) * .39; //convert to CM then to inches
   return sonar_value;
} // unsigned long ping()

 

I had no problems with response time, I think switching between input and output happens pretty fast.

TigPT's picture

Hi Bryan4,So, basicly the

Hi Bryan4,

So, basicly the are made for diferente proposes, as u can find here, the SRF04

Sensor Communication Range Angle* Echoes** Ranging Time Notes
Minimum Maximum
SRF02 I2C / Serial 15 cm 6 m 45° One 70 ms A
SRF04 Digital 3 cm 3 m 45° One 100 μs - 36 ms  
SRF05 Digital 3 cm 4 m 45° One 100 μs - 36 ms  
SRF08 I2C 3 cm 6 m 45° 17 65 ms B C
SRF10 I2C 3 cm 6 m 60° One 65 ms A B
SRF235 I2C 10 cm 1.2 m 15° One 10 ms A D

*: Approximate angle of the sensor cone at 1/2 sensor range (see diagram above).
**: The number of echoes recorded by the sensor. These are the recorded echoes from the most recent reading, and are overwritten with each new ranging.
A: These sensors are smaller than the typical (SRF 04 / 05 / 08) size.
B: Range time can be adjusted down by adjusting the gain.
C: This sensor also includes a photocell on the front for light detection.

 

About the PICAXE 28x1, i never used it, sory can't help you on this!

Thanks

Thanks for all your help everyone! I suppose I'll stick with the SRF05 that everyone seems to use! Gonna order my soarbotics wheels and gear motors tomorrow seeing as today I tried to mess around with regular motors and the bot wouldnt even move!

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