The Climber - Third ride - It works!!!!!
Hi guys !
I'm working on a robot from plywood. He should the stairs up and down ride.
He receives four strong (12kg/cm) servos modiefied for continuos rotation and one Sharp IR and probably two bumper switches.
My first Climber was finished, but he had two problems:
- first and last stair, so I had to change the design.
I hope that now everything is good.
24 June 2009 - First ride
Without sensors.
25 June 2009 - Second ride
He is too heavy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
26 June 2009 - Third ride
It works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


@ Sun, 2009-06-21 07:07
climb stairs.. ?
@ Sun, 2009-06-21 07:47
perfectly !!!
One prototype was already finished, but i have two problems:
- first and last stair
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 09:44
now i have seen the video i
now i have seen the video i think i know how to fix that.
try to add some weight just below the micro-controller, and maybe add some small high-friction rubber spikes on the wheels
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 22:04
:(
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 15:11
TRY! to put the wheels a
TRY! to put the wheels a little off-center on the servos
that would make a low-(but still a little)bumby ride and maybe work!? :D
(would look funny if too off-center)
@ Sun, 2009-06-21 08:35
Video?
@ Sun, 2009-06-21 17:02
Not yet.
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 06:25
First ride
Hi!
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 06:59
That is amazing, very cool
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 07:20
It will make people stop and stair...
awsome!!!
Love it. Great and simple.
what's the next step (pun intended)?
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 08:58
Awesome
@ Sun, 2009-12-13 17:41
Super simple! It should be a
@ Wed, 2009-06-24 09:26
very clever
I can imagine that as 1 foot(toes not inches) of a full standing robot walking up stairs with the ankle above the controller board,
don't ask me how it could balance but it would look awsome if it could work.
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 01:08
It's so smooth
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 01:21
weight distribution...
So the problem with the first and last stairs have to do with the weight distribution, I think.
during mid-flight, (i.e. flight of stairs...um. another bad pun..), the rear wheels are taking about 70% of the weight (square root of 2, assuming that the robot is at 45 degrees!), rather than half of the weight. In the case of the last step, the downward weight vector on the front wheel is much smaller than it is while it's climbing, i.e. it's not pulling "up" as strongly, so has relatively smaller traction.
So you need to either have some way to dynamically change the weight distribution, which would make it more complex, or you could try using "stickier" rubber on the wheels - that would increase the normal forces that are the traction.
There's an important point here, in response to one of your comments - adding rubber spikes to the wheels actually DECREASES your traction, this is because by using spikes, you decrease the amount of contact between the wheel and the ground. If you want maximum traction, you need very smooth, sticky rubber - this is exactly why formula 1 race cars have "slicks", which provide maximum traction with the ground.
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 11:11
You should set more weight
You should set more weight on the backend.... i think.
Then the front end should be leighter than the front end and the will push it up at the first step :)
Hope it helps...
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 13:46
no, that would totally stop
no, that would totally stop it at the last step!
it need more weight on the middle!
AND as you said, the wheel need to be lighter!
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 20:47
He is too heavy! What ideas?????
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 20:47
He is too heavy! What ideas?????
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 20:56
torque
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 21:10
Torque
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 22:29
Add another servo in the
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 22:43
Try putting faster rotation on front or back -differential speed
For the first couple of seconds just make the back wheels a little bit faster than the front.
(or the other way not quite sure of my logic)
The wheels appear to have enough traction - maybe it just needs more "Push behind" than "Pull infront" for the first part or visaversa.
once its underway (maybe by tilt switch) it can revert to same speed back and front.........
@ Fri, 2009-06-26 20:47
But how??????
main:
pause 2000 ‘ wait 2 seconds
servopos 4,225 ‘ move servo to other end
pause 2000 ‘ wait 2 seconds
goto main ‘ loop back to start
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 23:31
traction
I think this is a very nice design but your problem is not weight or power but traction, you need more wheels.
here is a video of a similar robot that has overcome the problem with more wheels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW4LJW6j05E&feature=channel_page
@ Thu, 2009-06-25 23:22
tracks.
Traction is absolutely the problem.
If you don't have stickier rubber wheels, how about adding some rubber belt tracks? Having said that, you need enough weight to make the rubber belts effective, but if you must add weight, add it only to the centre of mass, not to one end or the other...
@ Fri, 2009-06-26 15:30
Think i found out!
I think i found a solution, its really comes in a game where you need to go over obstergoals, and then i juse that tactic, but to the subtjek. http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9208/60319307.png There you see the front, that it does is when it hit the first wheel then it will lift up, but you need some thing to hold it, but you need lots of power. Then i put that arrow to see that when the secound wheel hit then you got exstra power....
Hope THIS helps :)
@ Fri, 2009-06-26 20:47
Good idea
@ Fri, 2009-06-26 23:42
You are great!
It works.
I must still nice edit.
@ Sat, 2009-06-27 09:06
tape and blue paper
Why do you have blue paper and tape on the upper stair?
Is it for another project you are working on?