I have been thinking of selling PIC series stuff at local Hamfests. I have seen some chips on Ebuy and are labeled PIC 08M,14M and 20M. I googled each and got a schematic for the PIC 08M easily but can only come up with PICAXE series for the PIC14 and 20M. Does PIC and PICAXE use the same software? Basic Stamp is pricy but much easier for me. I have downloaded the PICAXE manual. For me electronics is no problem.